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	<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/</link>
	<description>New Buildings, Construction, Destruction, Planning, Real Estate, and Gossip as it happens in the Nation's Capital</description>
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		<title>By: Another links roundup &#124; The Triangle</title>
		<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-8260</link>
		<author>Another links roundup &#124; The Triangle</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 22:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-8260</guid>
		<description>[...] DCMetrocentric has renderings of Northwest One project just east of the Triangle&#8217;s New Jersey Ave border. This development aims to tear down and rebuild the area (including the Sursum Corda housing projects) as a new community. Northwest One will be mixed income, mixed use including a new clinic, library, recreation center, and rebuilt Walker-Jones elementary school.   Tags: Blog, DDOT, NWOne, Shaw, Transit [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] DCMetrocentric has renderings of Northwest One project just east of the Triangle&#8217;s New Jersey Ave border. This development aims to tear down and rebuild the area (including the Sursum Corda housing projects) as a new community. Northwest One will be mixed income, mixed use including a new clinic, library, recreation center, and rebuilt Walker-Jones elementary school.   Tags: Blog, DDOT, NWOne, Shaw, Transit [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: mkapoor</title>
		<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-4025</link>
		<author>mkapoor</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-4025</guid>
		<description>I am interested in interviewing people who have been tenants at temple courts apartments Please email me. Does this blog writer and the respondents have any pictures , video regarding this building and its apartments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am interested in interviewing people who have been tenants at temple courts apartments Please email me. Does this blog writer and the respondents have any pictures , video regarding this building and its apartments</p>
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		<title>By: DC Metrocentric &#187; Trouble for Northwest One?</title>
		<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-3379</link>
		<author>DC Metrocentric &#187; Trouble for Northwest One?</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-3379</guid>
		<description>[...] there is some growing concern over the $700 million Northwest One project because of the current market downturn. The combination of the 1,000 market rate condos and the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] there is some growing concern over the $700 million Northwest One project because of the current market downturn. The combination of the 1,000 market rate condos and the [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: DC Metrocentric &#187; Northwest One Construction</title>
		<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-2723</link>
		<author>DC Metrocentric &#187; Northwest One Construction</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-2723</guid>
		<description>[...] begun on the Walker Jones School and Community Center in Ward 6 which is the centerpiece of the Northwest One New Communities initiative. The project is being built on the former Terrell Junior High School site along NJ Ave between L [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] begun on the Walker Jones School and Community Center in Ward 6 which is the centerpiece of the Northwest One New Communities initiative. The project is being built on the former Terrell Junior High School site along NJ Ave between L [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: DC Metrocentric &#187; DC&#8217;s New Communities Initiative</title>
		<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-2176</link>
		<author>DC Metrocentric &#187; DC&#8217;s New Communities Initiative</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-2176</guid>
		<description>[...] developments are located and where high concentrations of poverty and crime exist. While areas like Lincoln Heights and Northwest One have been getting a lot of attention lately, there are other areas that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] developments are located and where high concentrations of poverty and crime exist. While areas like Lincoln Heights and Northwest One have been getting a lot of attention lately, there are other areas that [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: galmeida</title>
		<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-2119</link>
		<author>galmeida</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-2119</guid>
		<description>disappointment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>disappointment.</p>
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		<title>By: kk</title>
		<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-2116</link>
		<author>kk</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-2116</guid>
		<description>That isnt correct the " bound by North Capitol Street on the east, New York Avenue on the north, and New Jersey Avenue on the west."

As i recall the area of Above M Street between New York Ave &#38; North Capitol Isnt public housing, The houses on New York Ave Between 1 ST &#38; North Capitol are private property and by what was stated makes it sound like that is apart of this which it is not.


And for the people saying about how the people are using the system, do you know for a fact that everylast person in the area is using the system no you dont so you cant really make a judgement like that, that is being prejudice to people of a lower class</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That isnt correct the &#8221; bound by North Capitol Street on the east, New York Avenue on the north, and New Jersey Avenue on the west.&#8221;</p>
<p>As i recall the area of Above M Street between New York Ave &amp; North Capitol Isnt public housing, The houses on New York Ave Between 1 ST &amp; North Capitol are private property and by what was stated makes it sound like that is apart of this which it is not.</p>
<p>And for the people saying about how the people are using the system, do you know for a fact that everylast person in the area is using the system no you dont so you cant really make a judgement like that, that is being prejudice to people of a lower class</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-2106</link>
		<author>Anon</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-2106</guid>
		<description>DC has always had an issue with "self-declared victims" and the "gimme-more" entitlement mentality.  I'm sick of always being told to "help" these people.  I don't might helping someone who is down on their luck, but I find it unfair to "help" people maintain a lifestyle whatever it may be.  I work so I can provide for myself.  I don't rely on the help of others.  Public housing should be a temporary solution to a problem, not a permanent solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DC has always had an issue with &#8220;self-declared victims&#8221; and the &#8220;gimme-more&#8221; entitlement mentality.  I&#8217;m sick of always being told to &#8220;help&#8221; these people.  I don&#8217;t might helping someone who is down on their luck, but I find it unfair to &#8220;help&#8221; people maintain a lifestyle whatever it may be.  I work so I can provide for myself.  I don&#8217;t rely on the help of others.  Public housing should be a temporary solution to a problem, not a permanent solution.</p>
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		<title>By: The King of Spain</title>
		<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-2105</link>
		<author>The King of Spain</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-2105</guid>
		<description>In response to the comments above:

Consistently, crime is correlated with &lt;i&gt;concentration &lt;/i&gt; of poor individuals, where hopelessness is everywhere and crime seems like a good option. In these places, the majority of law abiding citizens, are swamped by the presence of criminals above a tolerance. The most effective way of dealing with this has been pretty well proven to be lower densities of poor people, either mixed in with wealthier neighbors, or just over less land. The latter is clearly not an option. Restricting the inclusive housing to families, and providing useful community services often returns those on welfare to taxpayers. Rent-to own arrangements helps even more.  

The alternative to crime and welfare getting paid minimum wage in thankless jobs that have no future. Since many young men are incarcerated, usually for regressive and wasteful drug charges, so can't get good jobs anyway. 
For sure, residents need to take responsibility for their actions but I seriously doubt that most people west of Rock Creek would do any better without a better environment. Examples of people who truly rise out of the situations tend to be truly exceptional individuals.

Interestingly, places where people do not collect welfare and are living on minimum wage, such as in larger chinatowns and illegal ghettoes, crime is just as high, diseases are higher, and abuse and integration into the city is far worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to the comments above:</p>
<p>Consistently, crime is correlated with <i>concentration </i> of poor individuals, where hopelessness is everywhere and crime seems like a good option. In these places, the majority of law abiding citizens, are swamped by the presence of criminals above a tolerance. The most effective way of dealing with this has been pretty well proven to be lower densities of poor people, either mixed in with wealthier neighbors, or just over less land. The latter is clearly not an option. Restricting the inclusive housing to families, and providing useful community services often returns those on welfare to taxpayers. Rent-to own arrangements helps even more.  </p>
<p>The alternative to crime and welfare getting paid minimum wage in thankless jobs that have no future. Since many young men are incarcerated, usually for regressive and wasteful drug charges, so can&#8217;t get good jobs anyway.<br />
For sure, residents need to take responsibility for their actions but I seriously doubt that most people west of Rock Creek would do any better without a better environment. Examples of people who truly rise out of the situations tend to be truly exceptional individuals.</p>
<p>Interestingly, places where people do not collect welfare and are living on minimum wage, such as in larger chinatowns and illegal ghettoes, crime is just as high, diseases are higher, and abuse and integration into the city is far worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Cascades</title>
		<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-2103</link>
		<author>Cascades</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-2103</guid>
		<description>What's considered Market Rate for a development that includes a high % of subsidized housing? You can build a unit with the same floorplan &#38; finishes as Yale Lofts a few blocks down NY Ave and I'd need a 25-40% discount to even consider the unit in NWOne. I hope the city &#38; developers don't expect urban professionals to pay the same in NWOne as they would anywhere else in nearby NoMA or MVT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s considered Market Rate for a development that includes a high % of subsidized housing? You can build a unit with the same floorplan &amp; finishes as Yale Lofts a few blocks down NY Ave and I&#8217;d need a 25-40% discount to even consider the unit in NWOne. I hope the city &amp; developers don&#8217;t expect urban professionals to pay the same in NWOne as they would anywhere else in nearby NoMA or MVT?</p>
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		<title>By: Mose</title>
		<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-2100</link>
		<author>Mose</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-2100</guid>
		<description>Steve - I'm happy to clarify that I don't think all poor people are criminals.  I also appreciate you letting me know that poor people have to live somewhere.  Such an informative place, is the internet!  I would suggest, however, that you need to broaden your horizons if you think the only place that poor people can live is in subsidized housing located on what would otherwise be very valuable real estate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve - I&#8217;m happy to clarify that I don&#8217;t think all poor people are criminals.  I also appreciate you letting me know that poor people have to live somewhere.  Such an informative place, is the internet!  I would suggest, however, that you need to broaden your horizons if you think the only place that poor people can live is in subsidized housing located on what would otherwise be very valuable real estate.</p>
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		<title>By: Gleb</title>
		<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-2098</link>
		<author>Gleb</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 07:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-2098</guid>
		<description>There's no reason poor people need to live in what would otherwise be some of the most valuable real estate in the city.

Currently the area is a nightmare of drugs and prostitution and other sundry crime that cuts off the whole eastern part of the city from the core.

It is time to admit that warehousing people in government projects just doesn't work.  Let the residents find and pay for their own housing just like everyone else.  We have two million people come to this country every year with only the clothes on their backs.  I think these people should be fine.  

Providing this free housing hurts them, it doesn't help them.  It breaks their character and destroys their proper motivation.  We've already learned all these lessons.  I hope we don't doom the area for another 40 years by trying to cram the same criminals back into this space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no reason poor people need to live in what would otherwise be some of the most valuable real estate in the city.</p>
<p>Currently the area is a nightmare of drugs and prostitution and other sundry crime that cuts off the whole eastern part of the city from the core.</p>
<p>It is time to admit that warehousing people in government projects just doesn&#8217;t work.  Let the residents find and pay for their own housing just like everyone else.  We have two million people come to this country every year with only the clothes on their backs.  I think these people should be fine.  </p>
<p>Providing this free housing hurts them, it doesn&#8217;t help them.  It breaks their character and destroys their proper motivation.  We&#8217;ve already learned all these lessons.  I hope we don&#8217;t doom the area for another 40 years by trying to cram the same criminals back into this space.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Sorrel</title>
		<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-2096</link>
		<author>Steven Sorrel</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-2096</guid>
		<description>Well Mose that is precisely why there is investment in not only the housing, but in the community facilities like rec centers an libraries and well maintained buildings and new lighting etc that make places safer. Sorry to break it to you but not all poor people are criminals and they have to live somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Mose that is precisely why there is investment in not only the housing, but in the community facilities like rec centers an libraries and well maintained buildings and new lighting etc that make places safer. Sorry to break it to you but not all poor people are criminals and they have to live somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Mose</title>
		<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-2095</link>
		<author>Mose</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-2095</guid>
		<description>Um, if the current projects are "an epicenter of crime in the city" then why it is so cool that all of the current residents will be living in the new development?  If an individual is a criminal of some kind, how confident are we that this individual will no longer engage in criminal acts because the housing is nicer and the neighbors are middle-class?  Might that individual potentially be MORE likely to continue to engage in criminal acts, in light of the fact that there are more targets of opportunity in the individual's immediate vicinity (e.g., people with some money who could either serve as targets for property crimes or to whom drugs could be sold).  Why not just break up pockets of poverty and let the chips fall where they may?  Without the subsidized housing, the District would get a double tax bonus here - the properties would yeild more property tax because they would be worth more, and higher income people would be more likely to live there, yeilding more income tax.  The District could then dispose of the increased tax revenue in whatever way it saw fit, such as by providing housing subsidies to the people displaced in the first instance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, if the current projects are &#8220;an epicenter of crime in the city&#8221; then why it is so cool that all of the current residents will be living in the new development?  If an individual is a criminal of some kind, how confident are we that this individual will no longer engage in criminal acts because the housing is nicer and the neighbors are middle-class?  Might that individual potentially be MORE likely to continue to engage in criminal acts, in light of the fact that there are more targets of opportunity in the individual&#8217;s immediate vicinity (e.g., people with some money who could either serve as targets for property crimes or to whom drugs could be sold).  Why not just break up pockets of poverty and let the chips fall where they may?  Without the subsidized housing, the District would get a double tax bonus here - the properties would yeild more property tax because they would be worth more, and higher income people would be more likely to live there, yeilding more income tax.  The District could then dispose of the increased tax revenue in whatever way it saw fit, such as by providing housing subsidies to the people displaced in the first instance.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Robertson</title>
		<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-2094</link>
		<author>Sean Robertson</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2008/06/17/northwest-one-revival/#comment-2094</guid>
		<description>SGDC: where would you have the current residents go?  That's a real big problem with projects like these.  Though I'm elated to see this neighborhood finally getting some much needed attention and I deplore the concept of massive soviet-looking housing projects, we have to be very careful not to displace large numbers of people without doing something significant to help them out.  Obviously not an easy issue to solve, but we've got to try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SGDC: where would you have the current residents go?  That&#8217;s a real big problem with projects like these.  Though I&#8217;m elated to see this neighborhood finally getting some much needed attention and I deplore the concept of massive soviet-looking housing projects, we have to be very careful not to displace large numbers of people without doing something significant to help them out.  Obviously not an easy issue to solve, but we&#8217;ve got to try.</p>
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