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	<title>Comments on: ArchiCritic: Crystal City Shops</title>
	<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2009/08/12/archicritic-crystal-city-shops/</link>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
		<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2009/08/12/archicritic-crystal-city-shops/#comment-6740</link>
		<author>Nancy</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2009/08/12/archicritic-crystal-city-shops/#comment-6740</guid>
		<description>As a (temporary) resident of Crystal City, I've been to the Water Park several times, and my impression is that it's in keeping with the rest of Crystal City -- completely uninspired. I'll go back to give the bamboo sculptures another chance, though.

As for "calming oasis," I guess that's relative. It is, after all, hard against the railroad tracks and the frequent rumble of freight and VRE trains. That's okay; what's more problematic is that there are speakers nestled among the shrubbery, piping out pop music and smooth jazz and the sort of Norah Jones tunes you've heard over and over at the mall, when all you really want is to listen to the water.

I came across a 70s Washington Post article on Crystal City  recently in which a photograph of the Underground was accompanied by this caption: "The Crystal City dweller walks past shops to the appropriate elevator. Wherever he goes, soft music follows. He never needs an overcoat."  Funny how appropriate that caption still is. I take the elevator down to the lobby of my apartment building, where the music starts, walk through the corridors of the adjacent Marriott, where the music continues, descend into the Underground -- more music -- and surface at the Water Park to more music still. It really blunts the senses.

And yet despite CC's overall blandness, it somehow manages to be an interesting place to talk (and argue) about, if not actually live in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a (temporary) resident of Crystal City, I&#8217;ve been to the Water Park several times, and my impression is that it&#8217;s in keeping with the rest of Crystal City &#8212; completely uninspired. I&#8217;ll go back to give the bamboo sculptures another chance, though.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;calming oasis,&#8221; I guess that&#8217;s relative. It is, after all, hard against the railroad tracks and the frequent rumble of freight and VRE trains. That&#8217;s okay; what&#8217;s more problematic is that there are speakers nestled among the shrubbery, piping out pop music and smooth jazz and the sort of Norah Jones tunes you&#8217;ve heard over and over at the mall, when all you really want is to listen to the water.</p>
<p>I came across a 70s Washington Post article on Crystal City  recently in which a photograph of the Underground was accompanied by this caption: &#8220;The Crystal City dweller walks past shops to the appropriate elevator. Wherever he goes, soft music follows. He never needs an overcoat.&#8221;  Funny how appropriate that caption still is. I take the elevator down to the lobby of my apartment building, where the music starts, walk through the corridors of the adjacent Marriott, where the music continues, descend into the Underground &#8212; more music &#8212; and surface at the Water Park to more music still. It really blunts the senses.</p>
<p>And yet despite CC&#8217;s overall blandness, it somehow manages to be an interesting place to talk (and argue) about, if not actually live in.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2009/08/12/archicritic-crystal-city-shops/#comment-6719</link>
		<author>Joe</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2009/08/12/archicritic-crystal-city-shops/#comment-6719</guid>
		<description>Maybe you should visit more than twice before writing on the subject. That said, it's unclear what your point is. Is it a critique of the original designers? Of the landlord (most of it is owned and managed by Vornado realty trust)? Of the current long-term plan?

You didn't even mention the long-term planning board that Crystal City has, the Crystal City Business Improvement district, or the history of the shops. Did you see many people around while you in Crystal City on a weekend? Of course you didn't, because it has more far more office space than residential. It is 9-5 with the exception of 23rd Street and Crystal Drive restaurants. The long-term planning board is to increase the residential share to help Crystal City become a 24 hour destination.

In short, it's nice to see an article on Crystal City, but do more research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you should visit more than twice before writing on the subject. That said, it&#8217;s unclear what your point is. Is it a critique of the original designers? Of the landlord (most of it is owned and managed by Vornado realty trust)? Of the current long-term plan?</p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t even mention the long-term planning board that Crystal City has, the Crystal City Business Improvement district, or the history of the shops. Did you see many people around while you in Crystal City on a weekend? Of course you didn&#8217;t, because it has more far more office space than residential. It is 9-5 with the exception of 23rd Street and Crystal Drive restaurants. The long-term planning board is to increase the residential share to help Crystal City become a 24 hour destination.</p>
<p>In short, it&#8217;s nice to see an article on Crystal City, but do more research.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2009/08/12/archicritic-crystal-city-shops/#comment-6717</link>
		<author>Steve</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2009/08/12/archicritic-crystal-city-shops/#comment-6717</guid>
		<description>If you cross Route 1, 23rd Street presents a fairly pleasant Main Street, with a few shops and restaurants. The restaurants on the west side of Crystal Drive between 20th and 23rd Streets are a nice effort, but they are undermined by the suburban office park designs of the buildings on the other side of the street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you cross Route 1, 23rd Street presents a fairly pleasant Main Street, with a few shops and restaurants. The restaurants on the west side of Crystal Drive between 20th and 23rd Streets are a nice effort, but they are undermined by the suburban office park designs of the buildings on the other side of the street.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2009/08/12/archicritic-crystal-city-shops/#comment-6716</link>
		<author>Aaron</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2009/08/12/archicritic-crystal-city-shops/#comment-6716</guid>
		<description>I bike down to Crystal City as a stop on my bike ride fitness regime, and I'm strangely drawn to the place, actually. It's very 1970s, but with enough of a budget that it doesn't look cheap. It reminds me of Epcot in Orlando, where it's beautiful in a way that I normally associate with non-beauty. Moreover, while I applaud the redevelopment to make it even more pedestrian/people/life friendly, I don't think they should throw out the baby with the bathwater. They are stuck with the 1970s curve style. They built Tron, for real. They should stick with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bike down to Crystal City as a stop on my bike ride fitness regime, and I&#8217;m strangely drawn to the place, actually. It&#8217;s very 1970s, but with enough of a budget that it doesn&#8217;t look cheap. It reminds me of Epcot in Orlando, where it&#8217;s beautiful in a way that I normally associate with non-beauty. Moreover, while I applaud the redevelopment to make it even more pedestrian/people/life friendly, I don&#8217;t think they should throw out the baby with the bathwater. They are stuck with the 1970s curve style. They built Tron, for real. They should stick with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
		<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2009/08/12/archicritic-crystal-city-shops/#comment-6710</link>
		<author>Glenn</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2009/08/12/archicritic-crystal-city-shops/#comment-6710</guid>
		<description>I work here in Crystal City and the "givernment corridor" feeling is indeed the overarching impression, helped by legions of uniformed military and defense contractor types with ID badges.  I can't blame the mall for catering to it customer base.  The area is slowly being redeveloped with lots more residential, so perhaps in a dozen years we'll feel differently about the place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work here in Crystal City and the &#8220;givernment corridor&#8221; feeling is indeed the overarching impression, helped by legions of uniformed military and defense contractor types with ID badges.  I can&#8217;t blame the mall for catering to it customer base.  The area is slowly being redeveloped with lots more residential, so perhaps in a dozen years we&#8217;ll feel differently about the place.</p>
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		<title>By: JNo</title>
		<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2009/08/12/archicritic-crystal-city-shops/#comment-6660</link>
		<author>JNo</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2009/08/12/archicritic-crystal-city-shops/#comment-6660</guid>
		<description>I sort of agree with JD, but if it were built even earlier in the century it could be such a cool retro visionary experience.  Almost like Jetson's fully realized.  Instead it's these hulking impersonal 70's buildings for the most part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sort of agree with JD, but if it were built even earlier in the century it could be such a cool retro visionary experience.  Almost like Jetson&#8217;s fully realized.  Instead it&#8217;s these hulking impersonal 70&#8217;s buildings for the most part.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Sorrel</title>
		<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2009/08/12/archicritic-crystal-city-shops/#comment-6648</link>
		<author>Steven Sorrel</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2009/08/12/archicritic-crystal-city-shops/#comment-6648</guid>
		<description>See I find Crystal City really appealing on rainning and cold days, and now that there is the new outward facing street retail, it strikes a nice mix for me. I imagine up further north, designs like this are more common?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See I find Crystal City really appealing on rainning and cold days, and now that there is the new outward facing street retail, it strikes a nice mix for me. I imagine up further north, designs like this are more common?</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Green</title>
		<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2009/08/12/archicritic-crystal-city-shops/#comment-6646</link>
		<author>Brandon Green</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2009/08/12/archicritic-crystal-city-shops/#comment-6646</guid>
		<description>Sorry, I see nothing beautiful in Crystal City.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I see nothing beautiful in Crystal City.</p>
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		<title>By: J.D. Hammond</title>
		<link>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2009/08/12/archicritic-crystal-city-shops/#comment-6638</link>
		<author>J.D. Hammond</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dcmetrocentric.com/2009/08/12/archicritic-crystal-city-shops/#comment-6638</guid>
		<description>Having to travel to Crystal City admittedly more than I'd like (it's the closest branch of my bank), I think there's something fascinating about it, actually. It reminds me of some kind of unrealized cyberpunk future and is one of the reasons I often jokingly refer to Arlington as "Tokyo In Miniature".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having to travel to Crystal City admittedly more than I&#8217;d like (it&#8217;s the closest branch of my bank), I think there&#8217;s something fascinating about it, actually. It reminds me of some kind of unrealized cyberpunk future and is one of the reasons I often jokingly refer to Arlington as &#8220;Tokyo In Miniature&#8221;.</p>
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